Datenüberarbeitung Bosnien und Herzegowina

07.08.2009 - 14:25 Uhr
Es kann nicht sein das ein Kroate bei Vitez der teuerste Spieler der Liga ist.Dazu noch Spieler von Zrinjski, Borac und Pandza zu den Top 5 gehören.

Amar sollte sich mal äußern was Sache ist.Zur Not könnte man Stodra bitten hier auszuhelfen (falls er das darf)

Natürlich könnten wir auch einen Thread aufmachen und Anfangen unsere Meinungen zu Posten.Aber keine Lust das er dann gelöscht wird weil man es nicht darf.Aber wenn solche Sinnlosen Thread wie "Weiter Kroatische Ligen (Ab 3.Liga) " offen sind sollte es bei der MWA keine Probleme geben.
Dieser Beitrag wurde zuletzt von YanGuAmtoHui am 06.12.2014 um 12:16 Uhr bearbeitet
Bin ebenfalls der Meinung das dies Problem so schnell wie möglich gelöst werden soll, es zieht sich sonst nur in die länge.

Der Culjak von Viteze ist sogar mehr Wert als Benko ugly das mal so am Rande.
Hello,

I don't know German so hopefully you'll forgive me :), but I think most of you will be interested in this.

I spent last few weeks up ***** data information about Bosnian Premijer liga, with the main focus on the goals and assists. We had lineups, substitutes, cards and goal scorers, but we didn't have bench information, and we didn't have types of goals scored and especially - no info about assists.

I set on the task of adding that information and today I finally finished with the last round played (Matchday 17.).

As some of you know, all of the goals from the Premijer liga games are shown in a Sunday TV show and are available online. In addition, some game videos are available from other sources, and some whole games are even available. I used these videos to determine the assists and types of goals, and managed to get information about all of them, except maybe 3-4 questionable goals.

There are many interpretations of assists. To determine an assist here, I mostly followed FIFA World Cup rules (here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_%28football%29).

This is what I counted as an assist:
- last player that passed, headed or crossed the ball towards the scorer
- player that had a shot on goal that was saved by a goalie, blocked by a defender, or bounced off the goal post, back to the scorer (unless it bounced back to the same player that scored)
- player that was fouled for the penalty (unless that player scored from penalty)
- player that kicked or headed the ball that was then scored by an own goal
- player that passed or crossed the ball directly to the goal scorer from a free kick or corner

I did not count as an assist players that were fouled outside of penalty box, from which free kicks were awarded that resulted in a goal. Also, I did not count as assists situations where a player last touched the ball before it was handled by a defender, then given a penalty that was converted into goal.
I also did not count as assists any situations where a player was not the last person that touched the ball before the goal scorer. For example, a corner that was rebounded and then ball went to another player that scored. Also, a pass to a player that had more than one attempt at a goal (kicked once, the ball rebounded, then kicked again and scored). Finally, I did not count as assists any situations where the scorer dribbled through one or more players and then scored.

I spent hours and hours looking through some videos and news reports and I'm certain that 99% of what I did is correct. I carefully looked at each occasion and a player that last touched the ball. I watched the the videos, and if the commentator didn't name the player who assisted, then I would try to figure it out from the video (I know, all the videos are terrible quality). If I couldn't, then I would look at various newspaper reports, websites, club pages, and even forums. Luckily, almost all the goals and assists were recorded except maybe 5%. Only one game video (played on a Monday) is not available anywhere online . I looked at some sources like Avaz that also supposedly count assists and I have no idea how they came up with their counts which are totally different than mine. Often times I would notice even a commentator would say a wrong name of a player, so I can't imagine newspapers being any better. Often times also an article would say something like: "Player A crossed the ball into the box, which Player B converted into a goal". When you watch the replay, you would see that ball actually hit a defender in the box, maybe even bounced around a while, someone had a shot on goal, and only then Player B would score. So in reality, Player A was not really the one who assisted the goal. These situations are fairly common, so I can only imagine would "sports journalists" would count as assists.
In any case, I'm pretty sure nobody spent this much time carefully following each assist.

Another thing that I added to the data - is the info about types of goals and types of assists.
Now, the script gives you many options, but some are rather dubious. I wanted to make it simple and delineate only the goals by which part of body they were scored. I did that in this way because many websites count exactly the percentage of goals scored by right foot, left foot, and headers. Also, it is a lot of times questionable what really is a "tap in" and not a shot. Because of this, I excluded all the "solo-runs", "tap-ins" and so forth. The only other types of goals I included separately were penalty kicks and direct free kicks. Besides these 2 categories everything else is either head, left foot or right foot. Except one goal that was basically scored by the crotch of a player :) which I added as a "tap in", for lack of a better word. :)

With regards to the assists, I called everything a "pass" unless the ball was whipped in from side into the box and through the air (not on the ground), which would be a "cross". If the ball was last headed for the assist I would of course record it as "header", and of course "Penalty-fouled player", "corner" and "free kick" categories are self-explanatory.

That's it. :) If you made it to the end of reading this post, congratulations :).
I will continue following the league and keep adding this info.
As I said, there are 3-4 problematic goals where I simply could not figure out who the assistant was, or how was it scored (because there simply isn't a video recording of it that I know of). I might ask more about that later.

In the end, I will make a list of players missing from the database and write them here.
Following players have either been playing or were/are part of Premijer Liga BiH squads this season, but are missing from Transfermarkt database. Please add them.

Name: Rade Lazic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Drina Zvornik
Position: Midfield

http://fkdrinazv.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_4.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Drina_Zvornik

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Name: Stefan Colovic
Nationality: Serbia
Born: Belgrade, 16.4.1994
Club: Sloboda Tuzla (moved from Drina Zvornik in February)
Position: Midfield

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_%C4%8Colovi%C4%87_(Serbian_footballer)

NOTE: There is another footballer with the same name and he exists in the database here. This other one has dual Swiss/Serbian citizenship and is playing for OFK Belgrade.
Off all the player missing in the database this one by far had the most games played so please enter him.

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Name: Ljubinko Solakovic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Mladost V. Obarska
Position: Goalkeeper
Contract until: 30.06.2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5gQlbm3040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H81qNvjyygk

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Name: Nemanja Kovac
Nationality: BiH
Born: 1996
Club: Radnik Bijeljina
Position: Midfield
Contract until: 10.06.2015

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=133080&con=nfsbih_juniori
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.joueurs.nemanja.kovac.252276.en.html

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Name: Dejan Jovanovic
Nationality: Montenegro
Club: Radnik Bijeljina
Position: Forward
Contract until: 10.06.2015

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Radnik_Bijeljina

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Name: Ivan Gluhovic
Nationality: BiH
Born: 16.01.1995
Height: 188cm
Club: Slavija Sarajevo
Position: attacking midfielder, central midfielder, defensive midfielder
Contract until: 01.06.2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijjBV20RnE

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Name: Mihajlo Markovic
Nationality: BiH
Born: 08.10.1997
Height: 187cm
Club: Radnik Bijeljina
Position: Goalkeeper
Contract until: 10.06.2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt7dC_xIhvY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Radnik_Bijeljina

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Name: Mehmed Calija
Nationality: BiH
Club: Unknown (left Slavija Sarajevo in winter, on 25.02.2015)
Position: Unknown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnEqE4einPg
http://sportsport.ba/tabela/Premijer-liga-BiH-2014-2015/777/igrac/Calija-Mehmed/1221

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Name: Jovan Kastratovic
Nationality: Serbia
Born: 22.01.1993
Height: 188cm
Club: Borac Banja Luka
Position: Central forward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXJzIr55mA
http://sportsport.ba/bh_fudbal/jovan-kastratovic-stize-u-borac/137378
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Borac_Banja_Luka#Current_squad

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Name: Fikret Karajbic
Nationality: BiH
Born: 15.05.1994
Height: 183cm
Club: Travnik
Position: Goalkeeper
Contract until: 30.06.2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_nd5GWZN1I

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Name: Almir Osmanovic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Drina Zvornik
Position: Goalkeeper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Drina_Zvornik

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Name: Sakib Brezicanin
Nationality: BiH
Club: Sloboda Tuzla
Position: Goalkeeper

http://sportsport.ba/tabela/Premijer-liga-BiH-2010-2011/185/igrac/Brezicanin-Sakib/1280

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Name: Haris Sisic
Nationality: BiH
Position: Midfield
Club: Sloboda Tuzla
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=140694&con=nfsbih_juniori

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Name: Mirza Husic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Sloboda Tuzla
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=140852&con=nfsbih_juniori
http://sportsport.ba/tabela/Premijer-liga-BiH-2014-2015/777/igrac/Husic-Mirza/1286
http://www.avaz.ba/clanak/146173/pet-juniora-prebaceno-u-prvi-tim

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Name: Semin Skulic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Sloboda Tuzla
Position: Midfield
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://sportsport.ba/tabela/Premijer-liga-BiH-2014-2015/777/igrac/Skulic-Semin/1287
http://www.avaz.ba/clanak/146173/pet-juniora-prebaceno-u-prvi-tim

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Name: Tin-Andre Tolic
Nationality: Croatia
Born: 16.10.1995
Club: Velez Mostar
Position: Mifield
Contract until: 12.01.2019

http://www.fkvelez.ba/index.php?option=com_joomleague&view=player&p=16:bht-premijer-liga-2014-2015&tid=1:velez&pid=171:tin-andre-tolic&Itemid=790
http://scsport.ba/vijesti/tin-andre-tolic-potpisao-za-velez/79212

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Name: Branko Bajic
Nationality: BiH
Born. 04.06.1998
Height: 170cm
Club: Radnik Bijeljina
Position: left back, left midfield
Contract until: 10.06.2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALf5a9Sr0k
http://nogolopta.com/?p=5331

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Name: Nikola Dujakovic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Borac Banja Luka
Position: Midfield

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=106450&con=nfsbih_juniori
http://mondo.ba/a547648/Sport/Fudbal/BORAC-Ugovori-za-juniore-Koljica-i-Redzica.html
http://www.glassrpske.com/sport/republika_srpska/Borac-jaci-za-sedam-igraca/lat/176049.html

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Name: Mak Varesanovic
Nationality: BiH
Born: 28.08.1998
Club: Olimpic Sarajevo
Position: Midfield
Contract until: 30.12.2017

http://www.fsks.ba/index.php/novosti/item/1130-vare%C5%A1anovi%C4%87-imamovi%C4%87-i-osmanagi%C4%87-potpisali-za-fk-olimpic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Olimpic

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Name: Davor Arnautovic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Mladost V. Obarska
Position: Midfield
Contract until: 31.12.2015

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Mladost_Velika_Obarska
http://www.nezavisne.com/sport/fudbal/Arnautovic-i-Marinovic-najbolji-285646.html
Two new players to be added:

Name: Go Ito
Nationality: Japan
Height: 1,92m
Club: Zvijezda Gradacac
Position: Goalkeeper
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://sportavaz.ba/clanak/6313/japanac-go-ito-na-golu-zvijezde

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Name: Marko Terzic
Nationality: BiH
Club: Slavija I. Sarajevo
Position: Goalkeeper
Contract until: 20.02.2018


Plays for U-17 national team
http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/vijest.php?id=10670
http://www.sportsport.ba/tabela/Premijer-liga-BiH-2014-2015/777/igrac/Terzic-Marko/1387
@Sony_91: Imas poruku u Inbox-u (dt. Du hast Post)
More players to be added:

Note: All of these players have either played or been on the bench since the start of spring season.

Name: Nermin Hadzic
Club: Velez
Nationality: BiH
Date of birth: 25.09.1994.
Place of birth: Srebrenica
Position: Center forward, CF
Contract until: 30.06.2015
Comes from: Al-Ahli, Sana, Jemen
Youth club: Olimpic Sarajevo

http://istocnabosna.com/myjoomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19709:nermin-hadi-mladi-centarfor-iz-srebrenice-potpisao-za-vele&catid=40:sport&Itemid=48
http://www.fkvelez.ba/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2229:hadzic-i-jakupovic-novi-debitanti-u-dresu-veleza&catid=96:vijesti&Itemid=628
http://bljesak.info/rubrika/sport/clanak/nermin-hadzic-potpisao-za-velez/110102
http://sportsport.ba/bh_fudbal/nermin-hadzic-potpisao-za-velez/154968

He has already been playing for Velez, so please add him in as a priority.

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Name: Velibor Mitrovic
Club: Mladost
Contract until: 30.06.2015
Came from : Kingston City (Australia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxMzCbM8ppU

Don't know much about him, but he already played a game for Mladost.

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Name: Nikica Filipovic
Club: Zrinjski
Nationality: Croatia
Date of birth: ?.?.1995
Youth club: NK Zagreb

http://www.hercegovina.info/vijesti/sport/nogomet/hsk-zrinjski-nikica-filipovic-novo-ime-medju-plemicima-79999

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Name: Luka Coric
Club: Zrinjski
Nationality: BiH
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://www.hercegovina.info/vijesti/sport/nogomet/luka-coric-zbog-navijaca-primarni-nam-je-cilj-osvajati-trofeje-87563
http://hskzrinjski.poslovnica.info/editor/images/igraci/__ORI__%20LUKA.JPG
http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=111483&con=nfsbih_juniori

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Name: Ilija Danilovic
Club: Borac
Nationality: BiH
Position: Defense
Contract until: 30.06.2015

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=131035&con=nfsbih_juniori

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Name: Marko Despotovic
Club: Radnik
Contract until: 10.06.2015
Came from youth system.

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=132767&con=nfsbih_kadeti

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Name: Vladimir Frganja
Club: Slavija
Born: 12.02.1996
Nationality: BiH
Position: CB
Foot: Left

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=127116&con=nfsbih_juniori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwCq-UgKZRg

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Name: Sedin Ljuca
Club: Slavija
Born: 21.03.1996
Nationality: BiH
Height: 182
Position: Forward

http://www.nfsbih.ba/bih/igrac.php?idIgraca=139584&con=nfsbih_juniori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSh2KGQQ5f8
Hat Nikica Filipovic (21.07.1995) bereits für HSK Zrinjski gespielt? schief Denn vorher müsste man Spieler auch nicht anlegen, erst wenn sie für die entsprechenden Spielberichte gebraucht werden.
Zitat von stodra
Hat Nikica Filipovic (21.07.1995) bereits für HSK Zrinjski gespielt? schief Denn vorher müsste man Spieler auch nicht anlegen, erst wenn sie für die entsprechenden Spielberichte gebraucht werden.


Er war in den letzten 2 Spielen auf der Bank.
dann erstellt ihn, ich ergänze dann wieder seine Laufbahn zwinkersmile
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